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Welcome to the Six Figure Personal Stylist Podcast, the ultimate no-BS business podcast for ambitious personal stylists ready to build a six-figure and beyond personal styling business.

You won't hear the typical snoozefest business advice that most personal stylists get told all of the time. Nope. Instead, I'll be sharing business-building strategies that will help you create a killer personal brand, a cult following of loyal personal styling clients, and make a ton of cash while creating lasting style transformations for your clients.

I'm Nicole Otchy, your host and a former personal stylist of 14 years who built a lucrative styling business in three major cities, but only after spending years trying to crack the six-figure styling business code without burning out. And now I'm here to tell you how to do exactly the same. Let's get into it.

Okay, today we are going to dive into how to balance your work life, building your styling business, and your personal life. What's funny is I've had to record this three times because the week I chose to do it last week, I had absolutely zero balance in my life and was on my way to burnout before a launch.

Part of me thought, “Well, am I really the best person to be sharing my tips and tricks with you?” It's funny how that happens because that's really often a mark of impostor syndrome. I know a lot of you have shared that you've struggled with that. Here's when I want to offer why I've decided that actually, I'm a great person to tell you about this.

The amount of time that it takes me to snap out of my bad unbalanced behavior and recognize it is so much faster and so much less detrimental to all areas of my life than it used to be, that that counts as a huge win and we are all humans with very specific tendencies of our own, whether that be pushing ourselves too hard or whether that be not pushing ourselves hard enough, whatever that looks like, sometimes it's both for all of us, depending on what you're dealing with.

It's not about necessarily never doing those things. That's not the mark of success, which is an incredibly perfectionistic way of looking at things and that's how I've often operated and it's not helpful.

Instead, it is looking at it as you're just progressively better and more on to yourself so you can course correct. That's what I want to offer you about work-life balance. It's never that if you follow these tips, you're never going to be unbalanced. It's that it will be less time.

And if you are a bit unbalanced—as I'm going to talk about today—in certain periods of your business, that's normal and natural but it's in service to something bigger. I think that's a critical thing, is when you start to feel like things just feel a little bit out of control, you're working more hours than you want to, or you don't have enough hours to work because of your personal life, is it in service of something that is very important to you in either area of your life?

Because sometimes balance looks like being a little bit unbalanced to get us where we want to go to ultimately create a more balanced life. I did not get that for a long time. We will definitely hit on that.

The first of the tips I want to share with you is the one that I think got me out of this last little dip in my health, quite frankly, which was the result of stress, pretty fast which was I started to get to know myself more deeply and I stopped trying to fix myself and push.

This is so important. I want to share that again, stop trying to fix yourself, instead, the best way to balance your life and your business and to avoid getting burnt out is to learn to accept yourself.

If you notice you have certain tendencies, then you want to try to figure out how you work with them and how you support yourself with them if they're not ideal. An example of this for me is that I am somebody both because I have had ADHD and because I am a manifesto in human design, which is something I've really started to take seriously as I got older, and because I'm 43 and in perimenopause, which is so fun, then a point where my energetic output is physically, even if that just means sitting at a computer, is not at the same level as my mental output.

My mental output can be quite high, but my body will start to shut off in terms of I will start to get sick. My particular body tell that I've had to learn is my throat hurts and/or I get strep throat even without tonsils and adenoids, which is wild. But that's how I know, and I've always known since college, that my body is like, "Sorry, this pace isn't going to work for me."

What's hard about that personally and some people I think that are listening that maybe have dealt with chronic illness or also dealing with hormone stuff or IVF or anything like that can relate to, is that sometimes that means that your “productive” looks a heck of a lot less productive than other people's and maybe that's also just because you're neurodivergent and you don't work in the same ways as other people, but I want to remind you that this idea of like the eight-hour output or whatever is not something that you need to lean into as an entrepreneur.

Are there going to be some seasons of your life where you have to do that? Yes, there are. Certain seasons of your business, yes. Not every day for eight hours, but you're going to have to work more than you might like. Yesterday was a holiday and Monday and I had to work anyway.

My husband had to take my daughter, which he was delighted to do, but I would love to have been with my family and I'm creating something right now that is going to serve me for years so one day out of my life is fine.

What I was doing when I hit burnout last week was every day was eight to twelve hours, meaning that's not how I run my business usually, because I literally cannot. I used to do this as a stylist until I realized that there was nothing broken or wrong with me. I just was not built like everybody else.

That was in my case because I got so overstimulated in stores because I was in person for the majority of my career, I find stores like malls kind of stores so depleting and overwhelming.

At the time, like virtual, this wasn't as common, particularly for the level of client that I had, they really wanted in person. Some of them weren't even willing to change that even during the pandemic.

One of the things that I had to get was that beating myself up for that was not going to be helpful, but creating a business that was in better service to that particular issue, building a business that was more in service to that particular issue that was hard for me, which was that I would be in a mall or store for two hours and literally feel like it had been eight hours. By the time the client got there, I really was like chugging caffeine and just trying to do my best.

It's interesting when I noticed now all the places in the times where I was so unaligned energetically, that's really when I was not calling in the best clients, my marketing was a mess.

Everything trickled down for that, but I was so busy constantly being like, "You're being lazy, it's not hard enough." Because I was working a lot, but it felt like triple the amount to my body because it wasn't right for me.

That's what happens when you build somebody else's styling business, which is what lots of stylists do because they're just looking around and seeing what everyone else is doing totally unaware of the truth behind the scenes story, totally unaware of that stylist's energy output, preferences, how much they're really making, how much they're not making, and how long it's taking them to complete a service.

Their prices might look really cheap, but if they're only doing it in two hours, they're doing pretty good. So you don't have enough context and that's why I want you to keep your eyes on your own paper and really start to accept yourself and accept the things that you see as themes over and over and over again because making yourself feel bad about them is just going to keep you in a state of fight, flight, or freeze, which means you're not building your business the way that you could be.

There's no need to shame yourself in a world that has allowed us to build businesses in a million different ways. If you just look outside of the styling industry, that is the norm across the online space.

Unfortunately, it is not the norm in the styling industry, which is why I'm trying to give you guys a different perspective because if I had done this for myself, I probably wouldn't have decided over and over again, or questioned over and over again if this was the right path for me.

If you're called to be a stylist and you get real fulfillment working with people that are outside of your friends and family, because I don't think you can really know this is for you until you get there, if you know that you get that high and that boost and it really feels like you're doing the right thing in your life and in your career, then there's a reason. But that doesn't mean that you have to do it the way everybody else is doing it, so important.

Part of that is learning what your body tells are, like mine is sore throat. It's accepting that your output may look different than your partner's output, your friend's output, or the way it looked when you worked at a corporate job because somebody already built the structure for you so you didn't have to exert as much energy to get things done during the day. That's another one I have to remind stylists of all the time.

Yes, maybe when you were working, you thought you had so much more done than you do in your own business, but that's because the foundation was laid. You're laying the foundation and you're building the whole building and you're helping clients all at the same time. That's a lot.

The reason why I've noticed that when I have coached stylists to try to accept themselves and accept their specific type of energy output, another good example of this is I work with a couple of stylists who are very extroverted and they went online and they couldn't figure out what was not feeling right about their business and the answer was they went online. They don't get the same energy that they got in person.

So we just changed the ratio of online to in-person and they feel so much better. They didn't want to give up the fully virtual aspect because they had clients that they loved in that space and it really offered them some diversity of viewpoints that they enjoyed.

With stylists like that that I just mentioned who have this sort of difficulty getting fully energized in their business when they're mostly online, we just switched the ratio. They're doing now more in-person visits as opposed to virtual appointments and they want to keep the virtual fair, but this just helping them feel more aligned in their business.

That's one really small example, instead of being like, "Well, everyone's doing virtual and I have to do virtual to reach work," no, you don't. Unless you're in a place where the average medium income is super, super low across any of the places you could drive to, you are probably going to be fine.

Of course, if you're in a big city, the world is more of your oyster, but even if you're in a place that's not a big city, you can still work on different ways of getting your energy really well-calibrated if you're not doing a lot of in-person because it's just not conducive to the area that you're in. All of those things can happen. So I just want to remind you of that.

Maybe your packages need to look different. There are a million ways we could handle this, but I want to just remind you that trying to push past it when it's really not a problem and fixing it and adapting your business to it, to that preference, and to that need that your body has because you need the energy you get from other people, in the case of extroverts, is just going to make you go so much faster, it really is.

So often, we're looking for these fixes outside of our business, like hiring more people and doing this and that, and I am all for that in certain cases, but usually, people are grabbing for those things when they either don't want to put in the concentrated mental energy, like in their marketing, or they misunderstand where their energy deficit is coming from.

Even if you're dealing with a health crisis or health issue—if it's not a crisis—an ongoing management of a health issue, first of all, I would always argue that your health is a part of your business balance and your business acumen if you will.

The better you get at taking care of yourself, the better you're going to get at your business. I don't know one person who does incredibly well in business, who is a thought leader, who is looked up to, who's respected, who doesn't also take care of their body at this point in time.

Again, this doesn't mean you have to be a health fanatic, but you do have to have it in the equation. When you start to think about your life like that, now all of a sudden, things get more balanced just mentally.

If you're dealing with something like a long-term health crisis, your energy, your hormones, or whatever, dealing with that is a business issue, particularly if it's something that impacts your mental clarity, really, really important.

I want you to consider slowing down to handle that thing, to go to a new specialist, to take more time into your day to get your meals handled, or whatever it looks like, going on your walk, there are probably ways you can take that "slow down" in time away from work and make it productive for your business. Both because you've got to get your brain cleaned up and your energy good in order to function your best, so it is a part of it.

But also, for example, I have struggled to get in as much exercise as I really need and want at this stage of my life. So instead of making it a big deal that I want to go on an hour-plus walk a day, I take that time to educate myself to talk into my phone—I don't care if I look like a crazy person—in a talk-to-text app in order to create content because ideas tend to come to me when I'm in motion. That's pretty common for me, and I'm sure there are lots of other people who recognize that when they're doing something else, they sometimes have their best business idea, not a problem.

As a matter of fact, I would rather you be doing other things if that's when you get your best idea than sitting at your desk, but make sure you have what you need to capture that. For me, it's a talk-to-text app on my phone, so helpful. Another thing is, I listen to audiobooks and I listen to YouTube videos from business leaders and thought leaders.

Now, yes, if I'm cooking or I'm doing something like that, which I'll be honest with you, you're not going to catch me cooking a lot, it’s my least favorite thing. I'm like a bare minimum “How do I get the right food in my body?” kind of person. I love food, but not when I'm cooking it.

But if I was going to cook safely, I was going to change my whole personality, which I'm not going to do, too much work. I would do the same thing, I would try to find ways to not multitask in the fullest sense, but to let new things percolate in my mind, like books and whatever, so that A, I could get better content, which is such a huge part of getting good content, is exposing yourself to things outside of your field, and then making those connections.

You can just think of it that way. It's like your education hour or your education time. You have to go to a lot of doctor's appointments, awesome, load up that phone with books, bring your notebook, or get your talk-to-text app, whatever that looks like so that you can see that there is some balance in your life.

One thing is not antithetical to the other thing. Again, know yourself more deeply and stop trying to fix or push. Those are some ideas for how you can do that and what it looks like.

The next one that's really important, and I work with my clients on a lot, is knowing your bare minimum. So bare minimums means the basic three things that you need to do in a day to move your life and/or your business forward. Sometimes it's three things for both, and sometimes it's three things each just depending on the season of life, your capacity, or whatever.

But one of the biggest things that I'm centering in my six-figure income accelerator program for stylists right now is this bare minimum idea because it's the thing that keeps people most focused, regardless of the fact that you're unfocused because of events in your life or because of other types of, issues like you are someone like me who are certain times of the month, your ADHD medication doesn't work or whatever that looks like.

I have had to learn what my bare minimums are for those periods of time so that I am not constantly all in or all out. The reason this is so critical is that we underestimate how much small amounts of action taken in a day can impact the long term and we over, over, overestimate by a lot, how much big outputs are going to make a difference.

We're like, “Okay, one day when I have all this time and energy, I'm going to do this huge XYZ and it will change my business.” No, it won't. If you are consistent, that will be the thing that makes all the difference.

Yes, for example, right now I'm running this course, the sales page, and all of that, is it taking me a fair amount of time? It is, but I also know that the lack of balance is in service of me being way more balanced later because it's easier for me to work in a group than one-on-one at the capacity I had been.

I know that right now my bare minimum list is a little bit bigger or my bare minimum list in my personal life, for example, is a little bit shorter because I don't have as much capacity, but I still know that the laundry is clean.

We have what we need for the week. My daughters' lunches are made. I have the things I have to do just so that it's not pulling us all out of our rhythm and I have the bare minimums I need to do for myself.

I need to try to walk more days than not. So usually I want to walk every day. Right now if I can just get in more walks than not in a week, even if it's 30 minutes, even if it's 20 minutes as opposed to an hour and a half which is my preference, fine.

I've gone down one day a week in Pilates. I'm trying to do 20 minutes of weights, twice a week, so I don't have to do the travel I was doing back and forth to my Pilates teacher. Just that kind of stuff.

That's my bare minimum right now. It's different than my bare minimum was last season, and that's okay. Bare minimum in my business, marketing, marketing, marketing. That will always be one of my bare minimums because relationship building will always be the same that carries your business forward.

There are three other things I teach people, but that's the one that is non-negotiable. It's also the one I noticed people tend to struggle with the most, so the more you make it a habit and less of a big deal, your stories don't have to be perfect, relationships aren't built on perfection, the less of a big deal marketing becomes and the less of a big deal selling and all these other pieces of your business that might feel hard are.

That's because every time you don't stick with a bare minimum, even if it means changing it from season to season, you basically create a stop-start cycle in your business that makes it harder for you to rebuild the trust in the relationship with your audience, who may be ready to buy.

This then gives you the false impression that there's something wrong with you, your services, or whatever, when all it is, is just like it is a law of nature. It is just a universal law that objects in motion stay in motion.

If you continue to just, a little bit at a time, stay with that bare minimum list in your business, and move it forward, whenever you're ready to ask for the sale or to market your next program or whatever, people will be there because you were there all along.

Same thing for exercise. If you stop exercising, it's super hard, at least in my experience, to get back on the horse. I wanted to say, as I'm saying this, if you think that I'm someone that's just like incredibly regimented, you got it way twisted, I am not.

That's why I have to have the bare minimums. I even have the bare minimums in my work with my one-on-one clients and in my programs. For example, when you go through a module in one of my programs, it's going to say, “This is your action item list for the week. These are the one or two things you need to do right now to move your business forward. Here are a couple of ways to make it easier. Here are some things you could table until later.”

I think this is so important because we're always so overwhelmed thinking we have to do all the things. But even if you did one out of three things on that list, it would radically change your business.

It could be something as simple as updating your new client form so that you're asking better questions and then you can use the answers to those questions in your marketing. That’s something you'd probably put on a to-do list and never do, but it's so important because it's going to make your marketing and your relationships with your clients so much deeper.

It's the kind of thing you have thought of because you don't know what's important. But I'm telling you in these circumstances, my clients like, at the end of every one-on-one call when I'm with a one-on-one client, “Here are the things that we talked about today. Here's the most important thing you can do between now and our next call. Here are some other things if you don't get to them, you can come back to them, and that's fine.”

Because I'm someone who struggles with this, I have a lot of different ways of getting at the problem in order to stay consistent because there is no problem in my experience in a business worse than having the feeling that, “I don't know how to get clients and I don't know what to do to do it.”

Most people tell themselves they don't know what to do and my answer to them is to be consistent, “Oh, by the way, here's an entire plan,” and they're still not consistent, and they still don't work the plan.

When you know what the things are and what the consistency looks like, which is more days than not, you're showing up to build the relationship, and you know your bare minimums, then when you're not taking action, you know what the real problem is, and it's not, ”I don't know.” It's, “I'm choosing not to.” Let's figure out why that's the case.

Again, and even in this case, we're not shaming ourselves because we're not taking action. We're just trying to figure out what it is and then give ourselves the support to do it because it doesn't really matter why it's that way, it is that way, and we need it to not be that way because you have a business and you need to market a business or else you don't have a business. You have a hobby and that's totally rad. I love hobbies, but that's not what we're here talking about.

Know your bare minimums in your life and in your business and know that sometimes you need to change that up from season to season and change up what gets more attention.

This third one took me a long time and I think it's because I wasn't a mom, not that I think you need to be because I still have clients that have no desire to be a mother and they struggle with this. Maybe my story is that it's because I didn't have a kid, is wrong, but I really used to struggle with this idea that what I'm doing and paying for in my personal life is impacting my business.

I used to think that I needed to be able to have to clean my own house, cook all my own food, do my own grocery shopping, and obviously run my own business, even before I had a child, or else I wasn't legitimate, or I was falling down.

I think, honestly, I don't know if I would have used these words, but in retrospect, I think I thought it was like a moral failure. You know how you have clients that come to you, particularly female clients that say things like, "My mom never taught me how to dress," or whatever? There's something in that of like, "There was a failure here.” There's like something in the tone of that comment you get from clients. I always used to think about this. That's also a really good content, by the way.

But I had that too. I had that idea in the back of my head of like, “I can't do all these things,” like I'm failing. I don't know if it was as a woman, or I don’t know if as a wife because I could never do it married or unmarried. I'd rather be working, that is just my personality, even when I was in graduate school.

I used to buy a rotisserie chicken and live on it for a week because that was how I thought, it's just not worth it to me to cook all this food and take all this time and then clean all this up. I'd rather be using my time in a different way.

What's fascinating is that I used to think that if I paid for my groceries to be delivered or any of these things, like sending out my laundry or whatever, I was like failing but what if I had just seen that actually doing those things gave me more time for my business or made me a better business owner, better for my clients because I was in a better mood because I had more relaxation time.

Your relaxation time is equal to you being a better business owner because your brain needs to chill out in order for you to not be activated all the time and you being activated all the time is not a way for you to be a place for your clients to be able to feel safe and secure.

If I had just realized that the groceries being delivered could have offered me, particularly somebody who struggles with food prep and meal prep, but I need food to be sustained, if I had just handled that, I would have, I think, seen the impact it had on my business so many fold, that it would have been worth it. But I was so stuck in some unspoken moral judgment about it.

Another place this hit for me when I became a mom, and I've seen clients that aren't moms, but it's about having a cleaning person. Like, “Well, maybe I should be able to do that. I'm single. I live alone. I don't have kids.” No, you need to get a cleaning person if that's what you want. You get to decide how you make more time, spaciousness, and freedom in your life.

If that feels good to you, once you decondition yourself around what you should and shouldn't be doing, you need to go for that. I don't care. It's going to make you more money, promise you, to have that off your plate.

Another one, when I had a daughter, I went to Racheal Cook who's a business strategist who I've worked with and a friend over the years, who has a multi-million dollar business. I said, “You know, Racheal, I keep looking on social media and I have really done a good job not following mom content.”

I still don't because I really just wanted to be in my own lane as a mother and listen to my instincts, which I think is something being so old and having my daughter at 40 helped, that life wisdom helped.

I'm positive, the 27-year-old me would have done the exact opposite. There's a silver lining to that. But I said like, “All these people I'm seeing online have these businesses where they're saying they're making half a million dollars and they have their baby on the couch at their computer. They have their baby on the couch while they're on the computer, I'm not able to do that. I can't. I can't focus. I am always worried about her. What am I doing wrong?” She's like, “That's not real.”

Even as a very established business owner—because I was a stylist when I was a new mom—I had my systems, I had all those things, I just couldn't concentrate with my daughter there, my brain wouldn't let me.

I can only imagine how much harder it would have been to have been a new mom with a new business or a business that had never really gotten to the swing of things. I didn't know what moved the business forward.

If you don't want to get childcare, that's entirely on you, and up to you, and that's fine, I respect everybody's choice to be a parent the way they want, but you do have to know that not getting, whether it be your partner to help you, or up earlier, or staying up later, that will impact the growth of that business. You cannot have both.

Even if you have the best focus in the world, and the best kid in the world, like I had a great sleeper, by all people's reports, my child was the easiest baby, but I guess she got the right mother for her because she wasn't the easiest baby to me, whatever that means about myself, I don’t know.

But it's simply the case that you can do a lot, but you can only do so much well. That's what you want to consider. It's like doing all of it might mean there's a cost you have to pay later on that just isn't worth it.

Whatever your child care or even like I have a client who has a bunch of dogs that are really hard to like doggy daycare, whatever it looks like for you to have the other humans, animals, things that you love taken care of so that you can focus on what you need to, that is a business expense.

Now, I'm not saying that my accountant would be delighted with me telling you that. I don't know that you can write it off, but in the scheme of how you charge in your business, you should consider those things.

That's a piece that I think a lot of stylists miss. That's why I'm saying that your home life and handling that and getting more help in that often does yield more money and more ease in your business in ways you might not expect because space does that for you.

If you need to charge a little more to cover the cost of that, please consider this your permission, whether groceries, house cleaner, whatevs, it doesn't matter what your life circumstances are, if those are things that you struggle with and are not enjoyable in any way, get help.

Okay, the fourth one, I've kind of touched on this, so I won't go too much more into it, but just knowing the difference between a helpful lack of balance and unhelpful lack of balance is life-changing.

Like I said earlier, right now I'm in a period where I'm a little bit less balanced in my personal life to professional life ratio because I am about to go into a launch by the time this is out, the program will already be out there and you could get on the waitlist for the next one. But basically I know that I'm creating something for the future and that will require me to put in some time.

Now, one of the ways that I don't get myself insanely unbalanced during periods like this that are already a little bit unbalanced in terms of the time distribution I'm giving to things, is I know that whatever I create in my business is an asset and assets are things that appreciate with time and things that appreciate with time often need course correction.

Your business and everything you're creating for it should be an asset, including your marketing, which is why you shouldn't just be throwing stuff out there to throw stuff out there because that's not going to work for you in the long run.

I am unbalanced right now, but I am not in perfectionist mode. I am in what is the easiest way to get this out at an 80% to 90% capacity, not at 100%, not at perfect. Because what I can do is as people are moving through the program, and I'm getting their responses because it's the first time I've done it, I can course-correct it. I can even say, “Hey guys, you guys asked for this, I decided to create a new model for you.”

That's actually why I like live programs and teaching things live, because you get that opportunity to course correct it and that's also true in your one-to-one services. Something that's missing, and something you just launched, no big deal, add it as a bonus to your client, and then make it part of the process in the future. You cannot perfect things until you do things.

Trying to launch something perfected, whether it be a one-to-one or a program, is insanity because literally, that's not how it works. But when you think of the things you create in your business as an asset that appreciates over time because you can go in and course correct them and make them better and tune them and fine-tune them, that's how you become truly great, especially when it comes to marketing and messaging and things like that.

Your lack of balance at the moment can be a little unbalanced or can be crazily unbalanced. In my experience, particularly energetically, being crazily unbalanced is trying to be perfect. It's looking outside yourself for the authority or for people to tell you what to do.

In my particular case, what I've noticed is I am deeply unbalanced if I'm starting to worry about what other people are doing, “competitors.” I'm not someone that thinks a lot about competitors. It's not a natural part of my thought process because I tend to think of more of like “The better you do, the better we all do,” particularly in this industry because it needs to be brought up I think as a whole in terms of how we think of ourselves and how the outside world perceive stylists and stuff.

To me, that's not a natural thought. When I'm going off course to what other people are doing or sure sign things are more unbalanced than they need to be, that's a level of drama I'm creating that does not need to be there. You probably have a version of something like that.

Kind of having an idea of, “Am I unbalanced in the moment in service of something else and it's necessary because I'm creating an asset in my business?” Or are you training somebody? Or, “Am I unhelpfully unbalanced in my business because it's creating more drama and I'm off track and I need to rein myself in?”

Then the last point is just what I'm going to leave you with, which is to remember that we rest so we don't quit. I think people tend to think that resting is problematic. I don't. I really want to show you, again, that you can build a business that is not high hustle all the time. In fact, I think some of the best stylists I know do have that type of business.

That's why I wanted to give you guys the transactional versus the transformational because the person who wants to go deeper and doesn't do well with a lot of numbers in terms of clients does better with transformational.

Whatever you need to do to bridge the gap to get your business to where you want it to be, to be a better reflection of you, is something that is going to require you to rest periodically in order to not quit.

There's no shame in that. There's also no shame in quitting if that's what's right for you. We'll talk about that on another podcast for sure. But I wish that this dichotomy was something I didn't make a big deal about when I was a stylist for so many years because I used to think, “Well, if I'm taking a little bit of time off, the whole business is going to fall apart.” But every single time I did that, I usually got more clients because I just think energetically I was in a better place.

Now not everybody has my energy output. People are different. You may feel better when you're working a lot or you may feel better because you're energized and around other people. But whatever it is for you that signals it's time to slow down, honor it, rest, don't quit. All right, I'll talk to you guys next time.

Thank you so much for hanging out with me. It turns out that social proof is actually pretty important. So if you could help me out, I'd so appreciate it. If you just had a quick free moment and could leave me a rating or review on the podcast app, that would be killer. And even better, if you wanted to share this episode on Instagram and tag me, that would totally make my day and it would bring so much more awareness to the podcast and would help other stylists just like you who are looking to build lucrative styling business because the better each of us does, the better all of us do. Thanks for hanging out with me and I'll chat with you next time.